PS4 Not Backwards Compatible

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In case you missed it during the slew of PS4 news, the PS4 will not be backwards compatible with the PS3, meaning your physical and downloaded PS3 games ain’t gonna work on Sony’s new wonder machine. As IGN put it, “This means that hits like Journey, The Unfinished Swan, Shatter and hundreds of other games available in the digital space will not be carried over to PlayStation 4 in addition to the collection of PS3 discs sitting on your shelf.”

Eventually, though, Sony hopes to “fix” this by offering emulation or cloud services (from Gaikai).

Okay, I get it. The insides of the PS4 are too different than those of the PS3’s therefore it’s just not possible. And I get not wanting to implement extra hardware just for the sake of backwards compatibility, which keeps the price of the console down. But the idea of having to have a PS2, PS3 and PS4 all under the same TV is a little annoying.

The way it is I have (most) of my consoles divided up between two televisions — the TV in my living room houses my PS3, Xbox 360, Wii U and Saturn. The one in my bedroom houses my N64, GameCube, Wii, and SNES. If I want to play my Genesis or NES I have to haul it out of my woman cave and, like, place it on the floor in front of the TV. And maybe this isn’t such a huge issue with the majority of gamers — I don’t know how many of us hang onto our old consoles and bust them out from time to time.

I suppose I should prepare myself for re-remasters, huh?

What do you think about backwards compatibility? Is it something you’d pay extra for? (I know I would!)

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  • SoC

    I’m a little worried about where this will eventually lead to. I know I’m not alone when I say this will most likely be the last series of consoles that use any form of physical disc to play. And now there weening us off of backwards compatibility. Hopefully games will be cheaper but will quality start to suffer. It feels like they are moving in an era when it’s not about game, only bending us over for even more money.

  • they basically shot themselves in the foot by saying that the PS4 was not backwards compatible. Now I know I am not going to get it, at least not on release. They just basically made their own system the competition. A new system is enough of a gamble to buy as it is and they just made it even riskier.
    it is funny my friend and I were talking about the PS4 after the conference. and he even said that he might consider just saving up his money for one instead of finally getting a PS3. Then I told him it was not backwards compatible at all and He just went “Oh well then I am definitely just going to get a PS3 especially since it will probably get a price mark down.” yeah…Sony for your own good please figure out a way to make your system backwards compatible. I suggest doing it through software emulation. doing it from a cloud is a bad idea, internet connectivity is important and all but there are a lot of potential customers who just don’t have the connection needed to make streaming game content not a hair pulling nightmare to play.

    • Guest

      Actually they shot themselves in the foot on with the cell processor crap in the ps3, which now is effecting the ps4. They basically have to start over because of it. What the hell were they thinking to begin with lol? At least the ps4 will be easier to develop on and hopefully bring a breath of fresh air to the console. I’m guessing Sony has something up their sleeves in regards to a new PSN to rival Xbox Live.
      It does suck to think you’ll lose basically everything but your gamertag in the transition, but at least it’s a good reason as to why lol.

      • Guest

        Actually they shot themselves in the foot with the cell processor crap in the ps3, which now is effecting the ps4. They basically have to start over because of it. What the hell were they thinking to begin with lol? At least the ps4 will be easier to develop on and hopefully bring a breath of fresh air to the console. I’m guessing Sony has something up their sleeves in regards to a new PSN to rival Xbox Live.
        It does suck to think you’ll lose basically everything but your gamertag in the transition, but at least it’s a good reason as to why lol. I wouldn’t doubt that at some point due to popular demand, that they will include an emulator attachment for you to purchase in the future.

        I’d be upset if Xbox Live did this to me, except even more so since we pay for the service lol, but if the reasoning is justified and legitimate, can’t really be too mad. I’d rather have a better console with better hardware specs for the developers to utilize than worry about my damn arcade games lol. Plus, it’s the future, why is everyone always clinging on the past for dear life lol? Move on, play new games, help the studios out so we can stop all these unfair layoffs. Could you imagine pouring everything you have into a game and then being layed off? The good news is that now that people know ps3 is going to be obsolete sometime after ps4 launches (just like every previous console has been), you’ll now know not to buy any dlc til you get the next console. Telling your friend to get a ps3 that will be dead after a year of the ps4’s lifecycle is terrible advice lol. You are such a shitty friend lol. They’re gonna be really pissed at you when they can no longer play on psn on the ps3 one day. It’s inevitable. You’re better off buying a ps4 or the next box, or, using your wallets the “smart” way, and go the PC gaming route.

    • Guest

      Actually they shot themselves in the foot on with the cell processor crap in the ps3, which now is effecting the ps4. They basically have to start over because of it. What the hell were they thinking to begin with lol? At least the ps4 will be easier to develop on and hopefully bring a breath of fresh air to the console. I’m guessing Sony has something up their sleeves in regards to a new PSN to rival Xbox Live.
      It does suck to think you’ll lose basically everything but your gamertag in the transition, but at least it’s a good reason as to why lol. I wouldn’t doubt that at some point due to popular demand, that they will include an emulator attachment for you to purchase in the future.

      I’d be upset if Xbox Live did this to me, except even more so since we pay for the service lol, but if the reasoning is justified and legitimate, can’t really be too mad. I’d rather have a better console with better hardware specs for the developers to utilize than worry about my damn arcade games lol. Plus, it’s the future, why is everyone always clinging on the past for dear life lol? Move on, play new games, help the studios out so we can stop all these unfair layoffs. Could you imagine pouring everything you have into a game and then being layed off? The good news is that now that people know ps3 is going to be obsolete sometime after ps4 launches (just like every previous console has been), you’ll now know not to buy any dlc til you get the next console. Telling your friend to get a ps3 that will be dead after a year of the ps4’s lifecycle is terrible advice lol. You are such a shitty friend lol. They’re gonna be really pissed at you when they can no longer play on psn on the ps3 one day. It’s inevitable. You’re better off buying a ps4 or the next box, or, using your wallets the “smart” way, and go the PC gaming route.

      • First off I never told my friend to buy a PS3. The only thing I told him was that the PS4 was not backwards compatible. Even if that weren’t the case telling him to get a PS3 wouldn’t make me a terrible friend. Because he doesn’t care about online play and only wants to play 5 or 6 single player titles. The price will drop on those titles drastically as well as the price of the PS3,Because of the PS4. for what the PS4 will probably cost he will easily get a Blue ray player with 5 or 6 games that will each take 12 to 20 hours of his time. And after that he will have even more reason to invest in a PS4 because *gasp* like all big developers Sony makes a ton of sequels to their most popular titles. Which means he will have to invest in this backlog anyways! And by that time developers will have worked out all the problems that a new system brings to the table and there will be significantly stronger titles on the PS4. As I said PS4 could alleviate this problem immediately by coming out with a software based emulator the closer to the PS4’s release the better.

        Second I am a 3D modeler most of the people I know want to or have worked in the game industry. I can tell you that not adopting new technology isn’t the problem that is causing the massive lay offs that have been happening. It is a market shift from big budget console gaming to low budget mobile gaming. Also most people working in the game industry understand that it is very fickle and you are likely to be fired after a project has finished unless you work for a really big studio with multiple on going projects . putting everything you have into a game only to be fired afterwards is the name of the game. Hell, one of my teachers worked at a studio called Massive Black where he told me that he had worked on almost every major title in the last 5 years only to get his name in the credits of ONE game. Game studios are not happy places where people are valued for their work they are businesses that use people faster than a teenage boy uses tissues.

        Now on to telling people that they should stop clinging to the past and buy the newest thing to support developers. One if there is a big enough of a demand for a past title a studio will likely reinvest in updating the graphics for the current generation. This is a cheap way to make money for a studio since it requires significantly less work to pull off. Also having fun with a game is not dependant on the best technology as I said before what is “killing” console gaming is mobile gaming. But where you see only the implosion of a studio and the massive layoffs I see new smaller studios forming. Seriously though I live in the bay area there are more than a few big gaming studios here but they are quickly being outnumbered by smaller mobile gaming studios.

        I do agree with you that having the yoke of the cell processor will breath life into the Playstation 4 as far as ease of development. PSN will probably never truly be able to catch up to Xbox live just because Microsoft is at its core a software company while Sony is not. It is the Jack of all trades vs a master in the master’s specialty.

  • Paul M

    It’ll be a big deal for the first year or two, until the PS4 has enough games to justify its purchase. Even the PS3 lost PS2 backwards compatibility after a couple years. Then again, I don’t play games much after beating them, so this doesn’t effect me so much. Looks like it’s time to finish my backlog of PS3 games.

  • I’d totally pay more if they were able to incorporate the backwards compatibility. But since they aren’t able to do that, there’s no way I’m buying the PS4.

    • Actually they shot themselves in the foot with the cell processor crap in the ps3, which now is effecting the ps4. They basically have to start over because of it. What the hell were they thinking to begin with lol? At least the ps4 will be easier to develop on and hopefully bring a breath of fresh air to the console. I’m guessing Sony has something up their sleeves in regards to a new PSN to rival Xbox Live.
      It does suck to think you’ll lose basically everything but your gamertag in the transition, but at least it’s a good reason as to why lol. I wouldn’t doubt that at some point due to popular demand, that they will include an emulator attachment for you to purchase in the future.

      I’d be upset if Xbox Live did this to me, except even more so since we pay for the service lol, but if the reasoning is justified and legitimate, can’t really be too mad. I’d rather have a better console with better hardware specs for the developers to utilize than worry about my damn arcade games lol. Plus, it’s the future, why is everyone always clinging on the past for dear life lol? Move on, play new games, help the studios out so we can stop all these unfair layoffs. Could you imagine pouring everything you have into a game and then being layed off? The good news is that now that people know ps3 is going to be obsolete sometime after ps4 launches (just like every previous console has been), you’ll now know not to buy any dlc til you get the next console. Telling your friend to get a ps3 that will be dead after a year of the ps4’s lifecycle is terrible advice lol. You are such a shitty friend lol. They’re gonna be really pissed at you when they can no longer play on psn on the ps3 one day. It’s inevitable. You’re better off buying a ps4 or the next box, or, using your wallets the “smart” way, and go the PC gaming route.

  • I don’t hang onto old stuff, and for the most part I don’t miss the old PS2 games I used to have. Summoner 1 and 2 (I want Summoner 3 for the next gen consoles. Oh please oh please oh please!) and Twisted Metal were the only ones I vaguely miss.

    I’ll get the PS4 just for Infamous Second Son, but I’ll probably wait a good long while for the prices to go down, and for the PS3 emulation to be available. My children would be traumatized if Little Big Planet and Katamari Forever were lost to them.

    If no ability to play games on disk were ever available in PS4 i’d have to hold onto the PS3 for Dead Space. Backwards compatibility was probably dumped because it would drive up the price.

  • Honestly, backward compatibility is a little over rated. It’s nice to have, yes. If I can have it, I’ll take it but let’s be honest: when was the last time anyone played something from a previous console? Seldom at best? You already own the old console. Yeah, it’s inconvenient to pull it out to play an old game but when was the last time you played that old game? Short answer: Backward compatibility isn’t a deal breaker for anyone.

    • Exactly.

    • Dragonsys

      Some people play the older games a lot actually, especially some of the Final Fantasy and type titles. You might be surprised at the amount of people who still play & replay PS1 & PS2 titles constantly.

  • I’d definitely pay extra for backwards compatibility. If it really is gonna drive up the price to include it, then at least provide me the option to pay extra if I do want it. It’d be smarter to do something like that rather than charge hilarious prices just to add more hard drive space (I never got why they released so many different PS3 SKUs just with different hard drive sizes considering you can just put in your own hard drive for so much cheaper).

  • Yes and no! I never bought a ps3 (due to price) but I can say I feel the pain of many gamers out there! Though the Cloud system, at least from what they made it sound like….is most of the games should be stream-able! Also (and this could be another rumor mill) but I heard they were trying to implement a way that once you put a disk in the system, it registers it to the PSNetwork making it stream-able as well! So all in all your not out all your games….you just have to wait a little while til there in the network! I would do just like everyone else is most likely to do……hold on to the PS3, buy the 4 and once the transition period is over, stream your 3 games!

  • hm good question not sure. probably not. one day gaming will not be such a young industry anymore and it won’t be possible to play every great game there ever was (if that’s even still possible now). when i’m an old 80 year old man and gaming is 100 years old i won’t care about the old stuff. i might also be dead. i dunno. that’s not why i wouldn’t pay more for backwards compatibility. my mind just does a lot of wandering. i wouldn’t pay more because i struggle just to play everything that comes out so i don’t really mind. i also don’t mind if i can’t play an obscure ps2 game and have settle for destiny

  • Boots_33

    I agree with Peter Wong. I’m rarely ever going to access all of those old games and if I do, I have nothing against dragging out the old system.

    The real issue here is not knowing how long is Sony going to keep the servers up. Hopefully they’ll have reissues for the PS4 users who didn’t get them on PS3, but for the “early adopters,” will they still be able to access their free PS+ games? Will people who want to play Journey online on their PS3 still be able to do that in a year or two?

    While I get the intrigue of digital games and online capability, these kinds of issues still scare me.

  • Boots_33

    And for those saying they’d pay extra for Backwards Compatibility… I, as a non-PS3 owner, have a chance to do just that… by buying a PS3.

    • Wooah, you really is smart

      • Boots_33

        I is! 🙂